Need advice: Buying a used Audi A6 Matrix to replace my Maruti Dzire
The car is in good condition and I did a short test drive. Although it has adaptive suspension that can be raised, my biggest concern is getting the bottom out.
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I am planning to buy a used 2018 Audi A6 Matrix model (manufactured in 2017 and registered in May 2018) that has driven approximately 67,000 km. Sole owner, service carried out at the Audi dealership and then at a local workshop, a case of repair of the trunk following a rear impact (during the warranty). The car is in good condition from the outside with some scratches on the sides and a small dent. Inside, except for the creases on the seat cover, everything is in good working order. The tires are new with full tread.
The agreement is made through a known owner of the workshop and deals with the sale and purchase of used cars. The car has been overhauled twice in his workshop. He reassured that all repairs and other things will be taken care of before delivery, including cleaning the car 3M inside, a complete overhaul (it is due in 1000 km) and other things.
The car is in good condition and I did a short test drive. Although it has adaptive suspension that can be raised, my biggest concern is scrapping the bottom (I have a bad experience with my fully loaded Honda City and it’s a pretty long car (about 4, 97m long).
Everything seems ok. But these cars have a habit of giving unpleasant surprises. So I need guidance and advice so I can cover warranty and cost of spare parts etc. for any future issues.
I see this as a replacement for my current Dzire diesel which is turning 15 this year and will be retired next year.
I normally keep cars for a long time (the previous two cars completed 15 years), so I would like to avoid situations where future repair costs would render this vehicle unviable.
My replacement budget was 20-22 lakhs and new cars are not only expensive but also have a waiting period. With this offer I plan to stretch a bit but get a vehicle from a different segment.
Thank you so much.
Here’s what GTO should say about it:
A few thoughts. 67000 km is above my comfort level. I wouldn’t buy any car with over 40,000 km. 50,000 if exceptional otherwise.
Pneumatic suspension. And you come from a Dzire Diesel. Do you realize that these cars cost 1-1.5 lakhs a year to own? The air suspension alone works within a few lakhs.
The car is only 4 years old and the owner already maintains it outside? What are the major repairs that forced him to do this?
I would personally pass on this car. It’s not for you.
Here is what BHPian vishy76 should say about it:
The Audi A6 Matrix is even more attractive today. I used the base 2.0 TDI engine which is also quite reliable by German standards. That said, it’s a complex German car after all. Here’s what you should look for:
- Air Suspension: If you’ve ever read ownership threads on this forum, you might already know what I’m referring to. The air suspension of this car is complex. On our beautiful roads, air springs or airbags as they are also called are notorious for developing punctures. This will cause the car to lose ride height when parked. Drive long enough with this problem and you could also burn out the air compressor.
- Another part notorious for failure is the valve block assembly which is the brain of the air suspension. It channels air to the four corners of the car based on inputs from the ride height sensors. Failure of this component causes the car to fall to one side. All in all, have an FNG ready to deal with this. Suspension repairs in an ASC are guaranteed to break the 6 figure mark.
- Check if the headlights work perfectly. Matrix headlights are bright and have a lot of magic going on. Failure of these will again require an outlay of 1L+ if you want a brand new one.
- Since it is approaching the 70-80 thousand km mark, do not be surprised if the water pump fails. Known problem in these TDI 2.0. The pump itself is not expensive, but if the leak manifests itself enough, it will ruin the timing belt. The total bill will be around 7K if the pump works alone. If the belt and kit also need to be changed, this figure would be around 17-20K.
- Check to see if you experience any abnormal vibrations when starting or stopping. The engine mounts on this longitudinally mounted TDI are IIRC electronically controlled and cost a bomb to replace compared to traditional rubber mounts.
- Check to see if the transmission fluid has been changed. If not, it’s an expense that comes back to you very very soon. Air conditioning should also blow ice.
Overall, these cars are known to have repairs in progress around the 80-120,000 km mark depending on how they are driven. Be ready for those. Parts like suspension, bindings, etc. will have to disappear at some point from now on. Factor in about 1.5-1.7L of expenses per year on average for the rest of your property (including tires) and you should be fine. Remember that preventive maintenance is essential. Neglecting mechanical problems invites trouble.
Here is what Manson BHPian should say about it:
While the Matrix A6 remains my favorite design for a luxury sedan to this day, I strongly recommend that you don’t buy this car. Scratches and dents come and go, but they rarely stay on well-maintained cars.
If you want to stretch your budget 20-22 lacs and haven’t found a used car you like, I recommend checking out the Octavia or looking at the high-end Slavia. A new car involves negligible suspense in the first 5-6 years and the sense of opportunity to buy a new car is just too sweet!
By the way, I think (not sure though) that Audi ditched air suspension on the A6 matrix facelift for India, so if you have a thing for this car, don’t let the air suspension drag you down.
Here is what BHPian adi.mariner should say about it:
All the best for the purchase. Keep the following points in mind when buying a specifically German used car:
- Don’t max out your budget by buying the car. Something like if your budget is 25 lakhs, buy a car worth 18-20 lakhs and keep the rest as an emergency fund for unscheduled maintenance.
- Find an FNG that specializes in servicing German cars after your car’s warranty expires.
The rest of the things will be as usual for buying used cars. If the maintenance was done on time, etc.
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